It would take you a lot years to do what we could do now i feel like we could get by easily without you i don't think so i think hey guys welcome or welcome back to my channel my name is temmy and today i'm here with my sister .
Temmie long story but in today's video essentially we're going to be talking about science versus engineering and the differences between the two so we just come over from my sister's channel we filmed a video about the differences between like the degrees and like doing the degree at uni .
But in this video we are going to be looking at money so we're looking at after graduation what do you get coming out of uni we're going to be talking about different fields that you can go into with a science or engineering degree so let's get started so the first thing we're going to look at is .
The starting salary or like the median salary of an engineer versus a scientist so i do chemical engineering i study chemical engineering uni and you study i study chemistry at uni i'm currently a first year student what university do you study at i'm studying at carlos university .
And i'm studying at imperial so well i start this october so um yeah so what's like the start and salary of a scientist you know well i'm going to speak from a chemistry sort of perspective so the average starting salary for someone who has just graduated from a chemistry .
Degree is 22 400 pounds per year and the highest starting salary that i've seen online is twenty seven thousand pounds okay first so for chemical engineering i know different different types of engineering is different but for chemical the median .
Graduate starting salary is twenty eight thousand six pounds you mentioned the highest like salary but for me i've seen up to 40 40k for more experienced chemical engineers the salary can go up to like or the median salary is 54 000 pounds for chartered engineers the salary can .
Be a median of 75 000 pounds and i personally know salaries that go a lot higher than that a big range there basically and when it comes to people more experienced after a chemistry degree it really really does depend on what industry you go into you know the most experienced teacher of .
The chemistry degree is not going to get the same as the most experienced person making petrol and fuel do you know what i mean so it really does depend on which industry you go into and depending on that um you can do your own research in those .
Different industries but it's very very broad um and all the different industries we're going to go on to that next so what fields do people tend to go into for like chemistry so typical fields that chemistry graduates go into is pharmaceuticals plastics and polymers .
Toiletries but toiletries isn't like bleach and that it's more to do with like one of them companies like unilever yeah um png yeah and stuff like that you've done well you've done here actually she's she's still like learning all this like industry stuff because .
Twice first year i don't know but she's still learning she like watches my videos to like learn yeah stuff others include the metallurgical industry as well as petrol chemicals so there are different industries that chemistry graduates can go into and i feel like it's very broad as well .
Like there are so many different industries that people with chemistry degrees can go into yeah does that make sense i think they can even become chemical engineers if they wanted to so it's like someone once said to me you can go from like a science to an engineering but it's hard to go like .
Backwards yeah so if you're stuck between chemistry and like chemical engineering or like a science or engineering you're not going to go wrong doing the science degree basically yeah so in those industries what exactly are they doing so like for the toiletries like say like .
Procter and gamble they're making like what i don't know i don't know who makes nivea but like what exactly are chemists doing like to to produce that chemist they're basically formulate all of the stuff so like the actual formulas themselves like in the creams in the deodorant it's the .
Chemists that formulate that you know we actually make what you're putting under your armpits if that makes sense yeah later they you like design it on as a molecular level yeah whereas engineers we then take that lab that lab scale formulation .
And we make it tons of product so we can get that out to market so that's the sort of differences there fields that chemical engineers can go into including things like energy food and drink oil and gas pharmaceuticals plastics toiletries and water treatment that's that's quite a special one there .
At the end so there's a lot of crossover between the two between the two fields it's just different jobs in those in those fields yeah definitely so the next thing we're going to be talking about is like what kind of person is good for each kind of course .
So we'll talk about like interest first and then we'll go on to like skills later on but like for me i chose chemical engineering because i wanted a mixture of science maths and actually like using it to solve a problem i didn't just want to like .
Understand the science that's i think where the passion i guess of engineers lie and actually like using your science math your technology or knowledge to solve a actual problem and do it on a kind of large scale so what would you say is like right passions to have i guess a science um i would say well for me it's sort of .
Similar to yours but just on a smaller scale you know like you can't make it to the top if you haven't sorted out the little things at the bottom if that makes sense so understanding things on the on a minute on a molecular level and being able to figure out what's going on in the quantum world .
Which can really impact i never heard you say that before having music in the quantum world which can really impact you know what's happening on the large scheme of things if that makes sense so someone who personally has to be very patient .
I would say like someone with a lot of patience good chemistry because experiment after experiments but yes you know i really like true trial and error and just really working to find what works for engineers you need to like understand engineering principles so engineer .
Engineers always want to do things cheaply efficiently and really fast that's what they want they basically want to make as much money as quickly as possible but do in a way that's environmentally friendly and it's going to give you that the most bang for your buck really .
Um and also maths you need to obviously understand maths um at a really really good level what would you say like in terms of academics would be like ones for you i don't remember what you said you have to have a decent level of mathematical skill the solid amount we're talking like logs and crap .
For chemistry would be to a lot of chemistries about reactions and all of that so it's like okay what conditions is going to get you to the end true fast enough to actually analyze what's going on in the reaction you know like you don't want to get there too quick you don't want to get .
There too slow your way in days for the because then that messes us up exactly so it's all about finding the right balance of getting to your end result and then yeah it's very it's a good answer that's a good answer another one that you'll find in .
Engineering is a lot is like the ability to work as a team so if you if you think about like a huge power plant it's not like one engineer that designs the whole thing that's like insane you'll have like a group of engineers that are working like one engineer work on a specific part .
And then it will have like maybe like 10 different engineers or like 20 different engineers depending on how big the project is chemical engineers don't just work alone they work with mechanical engineers and civil engineers teamwork is a huge one that you will find and they force you to try and like work .
In a team throughout uni as well to try and get that skill up so i would definitely say that if you find it hard to work in the team it's definitely one that you're going to have to sort of like get overall like try and develop what would you say is one for like like you like in terms of like more soft .
Skills i think for you would be like more independent working just like do you like working teams in labs well we work in teams because we have to oh so when we get into the other years you're doing it all on your own yeah all of the research and labs and all of that you know i mean .
Like we were doing it together now because it's quite a lot of us there's not that much space so you'd work in a pair but later on you've started doing stuff on your own but when it comes to like the grand scheme of things and like working in industry and job like i don't know i feel like you'd probably have to .
Probably have to work with me at some point yeah so i feel like it's a balance between both really with both like you have to know how to do stuff on your own and get the job done on your own but you also don't have needs to know how to communicate with people you know you might do one part .
Of an experiment which you need to give to the next person but it's just like okay what's the weight of this how much concentration did you put first i mean like you need to communicate your work and your work needs to get passed on to all you've written down they've got to understand it do you get .
It that's a good one other question is like is it a useful degree to have so think not just about chemistry but if you say do biology or to do physics or to do like biochem or something and for me it would be like not just chemical engineering but like civil and .
Mechanical like would you say that having a pure science degrees is worth it like if it's useful i think it is um not necessarily that wouldn't you yeah exactly if i'm doing it but i think it is because even if i don't go into anything to do .
Chemistry if i'm not working the lab if i'm going to go and fly a plane there are so there are so many transferable skills from chemistry like working in the team working independently analysis problem solving you know solving a problem let's say someone's .
Flying a plane let's say the weather's moving mad what are you gonna do you need to solve that problem what other route you're flying do you know what i mean like it's just the way you use your brain in chemistry you use it in a different way for a different use .
It in the same way for a different thing in different parts of life even if i do nothing to do with chemistry in the future i've still got all of those skills that i've learned from doing chemistry to bring on like transferable skills and all that exactly i'll say similar thing for engineering .
So engineers you're literally trained to see a problem a certain way and fix it like that's what you're trained to do um and engineers look at problems in a certain way at least with my internship i did it in the science department so i actually did an environmental science .
Department and there aren't many engineers there so a lot of people had done pure science degrees and the way that people think as like from an engineering versus scientific background they are different because engineers are like okay what can we do to fix it like what are we doing like what's the .
Solution what's the step-by-step process like we're involved in we want to understand how to fix everything straightaway but the scientists they tend to want to like understand it understand the problem like the intricacies of it so i definitely say transferable skills approach that you look at a problem like .
The way you look at things so that's i think that's another reason why the finance sector does like to employ engineers the way that we're able to think in like streams so if you do chemical engineering you know a bit about like streams and engineers are highly sought after and just because of the way that they .
They look at things um and they also tend to be millionaires too fun facts yeah so we're gonna like have a like one last question that's like which one's better so like is engineering better than science because we get paid more or like it's science better than engineering because without scientists we wouldn't .
Have the stuff to engineer so like i don't know what do you do from your perspective like that be honest which is better which is better like which is more like useful i feel like they're both useful and just in different ways yeah .
Because with one you can't have the other yeah so i mean but at the same time you can't obviously we haven't done chemistry to your level but we've going into uni we basically have done like similar a levels like you did physics chem and french i did chem maths and biology the basics .
Every smart person does that i think every smart person does math chem physics that's what i should have done no math care biology i did read kind of similar a levels going into uni we kind of need to understand chemistry on a very like a certain level to be able to even do engineering .
So like yeah but your level you may seem like i understand chemistry but until you get to my level you realize that your level is very basic okay fair enough that was so rude what so you feel like you could do without us though we could get by i feel like we could get by easily .
Without you i don't think so i think so because think about it we've got the chemists who are doing all the solutions we've got physicists they do materials as well and all that a lot they know about that um producing things on a grand scale like it would take you lot years to do .
What we could do now i think not in terms of producing stuff well because you don't just need chemical engineers you need like different kinds of engineers so the chemical engineers will like design the process so you need a vessel this big to make this amount of tons of product .
But then the mechanical engineers will come in and be like this is how you actually build that vessel then the civil engineers will come in and be like this is how you need to build your plant so it's like very big today what you're telling me is that you can't even do without everyone else .
In exactly because it's all that complicated exactly so we all need each other well and that's all period yeah i mean it really is up to you what you choose it's your decision where your passions and where your interests lie and either way you'll be making an impact in the stem field anyway so .
That's sorted and let's not forget even though like from what you've said chemical engineers or engineers earn more than chemists it depends on what industry you go into 100 and some people with chemistry degrees are earning more than chartered engineers .
So it really depends on you and what you're doing and how far you go with it yeah sure it just depends on which way you go so we'll end the video there thank you guys so much for getting to the end of the video and for everyone that's come over from tammy gloria's channel welcome and i .
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