Friday, May 27, 2022

Podcast Ep. 1 | Dog Psychology vs. Human Psychology (Natural Dog Behavior)

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World of dog psychology or another term for that with the natural dog behavior and we specialize in saving dogs lives who have trouble it's my son Josh he's my right-hand man and helps me do all things dog and so we want to introduce you to our philosophy and concept and really explain what dog psychology means and what is natural dog behavior welcome .

So dog psychology how would you describe it just it's it's the sob the science the understanding of how our dog thinks operates which is knows the first thing I think most people have a hard time with is wrapping their brain around the dog has no words in their head so their animals just like we are we're animals too but we have this verbal language so .

I think probably primarily the nose number one but this non language part think about the why is this happening what's going on what causes it part mm-hmm but the gist is intelligent or near it with us or any other dog maybe but yeah of I see it I connected I see what's going on this is a very different yes yeah we all hear about how dogs live .

In the moment and really for those of us who may live in the world where we practice a little meditation you know or something like that that is us living in the moment it's really focusing right now words corrupt our world it's true it really creates our world and all these little things that are going around whether it's your to-do list or being .

Angry or what somebody said to you yesterday dogs don't have it it's a great thing so wrapping our brain around that yes very lucky very very lucky so a huge part of our job is taking people nonverbal language but really having this understanding about what psychology is you know we had human psychologists mm-hmm .

They specialized in the way that we think and interpret the world and dealing with situations well dog psychology requires us to learn about dogs and honored the dog dogs are people what would you say about that dogs definitely not people yes no frontal lobe correct it's it's it's hard harder for some than others you know I .

Think in not to dumb it down a lot I think dogs are dumb compared to humans but it is a more basic yes it's hard to explain it some people take it in a different way here's the way I like to share it and I had a client shared this with me and gave me this thought and I thought it was really nice analogy so dogs are the kindergarden box of crayons .

Mm-hmm simple colors yes they have emotions people who argue that animals don't have emotions I think are just so dogs definitely have emotions but they don't have the same type of brain that we have right well we have a reptilian brain a million brain they just can't do what we do and it's not a bad thing it's just honoring who they are right so so .

Understanding that just really getting people out of their head and kind of into nature about nature going back to nature so trouble dogs really put us on the map it's what we specialize in really aggressive dog or really fearful dogs and things like that but we can help dogs who don't have .

Released severe problems relax and have a more balanced relationship and understanding the world yes in a much clearer sense matter of fact I was working with somebody the other day and they loved the idea that they've been working on a lot a lot of a it was a dog with without any severe behavioral issues there's more like the dog gives a .

Young German Shepherd silly Fifi was lacking in the self-control like manners jumping over yes and they had a legitimate level of obedience and they would say they were down it would stay but it continued to make the same mistake their relationship was still alright and so we started talking and and I .

Explained the how the way we're gonna learn how to incorporate what we're what we bring to the table is the dog will now be able to understand through some repetition at some time of what it is you the behavior that does its problem if they learn the manners issue because you can tell them to sit when they're misbehaving but more than likely all .

They understand is you said put my butt on the ground they never connected the behavioral problem that they're bringing right don't stop the behavior right right because it means I think if I was like my children this is where it's it's super similar if if I want a certain behavior in the same public at the restaurant when we're waiting for a .

Table we teach our children how to have manners how to sit how to have a lower energy level on a tone yes we don't go to the restaurant and say sit stay exactly we go talk many people think because their dog is has obedience training to play down that your relationship is in order when it's really all of the .

Other stuff how do you interact when you're just sitting in the living room how do you interact when you maybe you gotta sit down for me or do you put some boundaries there so really natural dog behavior means we set rules and boundaries and limitations on dogs just like we do our children without being harsh or hurtful or abusive or hitting .

Or kicking or yelling yes so our basic philosophy is calmness and competence absolutely yeah and don't you agree that most people come to us anxious nervous oh absolutely sure yes fearful sometimes mmm so balance the human right and that it's hard to be confident when you don't know what today and you've had bad experiences or your or your baby you're .

Afraid you're gonna cause problems with your dog gonna make it worse make them afraid anxious there was more aggressive reactive whatever the case is yeah so first question we asked people many times is what kind of rules do you get your dog and many times that answer is no or they're a little dumbfounded by the .

Question and we do a lot of little simple things to give dogs rules the invisible line which basically means thresholds doorways and things sometimes just making them wait a little bit teaching them patience that works on the impulse control right because we have to start working on calmness and quietness and thinking though this focus is .

Probably the best focus attention yes connection that's what it all creates if you don't have that it's it's difficult if not impossible to start to create an education they have to start to understand the moment it may take several similar moments before they start to be able to connect things and it depends on their level of .

Intelligence our level of so really we're people teachers teachers but it's how we live with our dogs we talk a lot about lifestyle change and really I would think setting a goal before even continuing listening to our podcast in the future thinking about what kind of relationship do you want with your dog because that's really the goal that .

You're working toward and I ask people regularly do have you ever met seen someone in public with their dog who's so connected and in tune they're without a leash that all goes with them it doesn't mean we're staring at the human all the time it just means that we are actually connected kind of like you are with your spouse if you're out for a .

Walk you're supposed to be together you're holding hands are chit-chatting if it you're together even though maybe you're interacting with others mmm that's my always my goal I say the truth is when you're off leash with your dog yes so many people if you ask them how was your dog off leash and they kind of come back and you like oh my god I've .

Never even tried so we can talk about long line works but we can experiment with that and see how our dog listens through distractions but having that what I call like your PhD level relationship with your dog you can be off leash be anywhere in the world your dog is connected to you is compliant to you .

And that comes through being more natural with your dog which means both praise and love but also rules and boundary setting and structure has to come through both not just one or the other mm-hmm it does and talk about this so much too because really we are our own worst enemy mm-hmm .

We feel really bad about a lot of the things that we need to do because we assume it has this negativity attached to it that comes from our compassion yeah no we are very passionate loving creatures and so the the thought of restricting the dog from doing anything that they want or enjoy their happiness yes yeah and that is a great idea but .

It's not the way the world works that's not the key things negative but we've got to start somewhere rules if we're doing something wrong yeah right our parents would you know it's an education again everything we do is either yes or no hmm and if we ignore it it's a yes correct many people are taught to ignore bad behavior turning their back on dogs .

Yielding to them moving out of their way things like that so yes or no everything's an education it's really important to me for the sake of the dog yeah hey it makes my life easier the dogs respond and move much faster right but as its to me it's not fair if the dog doesn't understand that something is wrong so it needs to be .

Changed and this I thought was it it's an inappropriate behavior maybe just needs to be slowed down a little more gentle maybe you need to pay more attention to figure out when it's okay to to behave in whatever way that's like greetings and excitement levels and where it's appropriate where it's not I talk about this all the time because the .

Way that we communicate with dogs yes is a lot of eye contact and body language obviously they don't speak yes and so it's it's the other forms of communication that even we use just not as much but we're teaching the dog if you don't educate them it's to me the you step in that and think about you living in a world where nobody has has .

Explained any rules to you and you don't speak don't speak the language and you know imagine what that's like when you know think about the dogs that are really sweet they're crazy they're wild and neither shunned they pushed away they don't get to interact or they're constantly kind of pushed away they're not getting the interaction they're .

Looking for they don't know why they don't know why anything's happening and a lot of misinterpretation and it's not fair for the dog right which ultimately decreases whatever it is you want to do whether you're having some severe reactions or you just have a dog with really bad manners they you're restricting their life exactly you don't .

Know what to do you can't control them essentially but you don't need to have to it's not necessary controls is teaching the dogs control right like I think humans things right barring I must control right it's like parenting actually I'm a controlling parameters operate inside these parameters everything's cool mm-hmm if you operate .

Outside these parameters or attempt to operate outside these parameters then there is a pressure put on you what to get you to change you can also reward once they do the right thing right we're not anti positivity at all at all but there's a proper place to put it and then we also want to make sure that we're not increasing adrenaline while we .

Praise absolutely and praise could be lots of things no just hitting on that real quick I think we bring a lot of positivity to what we do but it's not what most of us associate to positive when it comes to you to training or teaching dogs right it's with a lower energy level it's more natural positivity there's nothing wrong .

With positive reinforcement style training especially with the treats and clickers and and and a lot of noise but there are some places where too much escalation and energy makes things harder yes I I relate children dogs so much if I get take my children and I give them a bunch of sugar and caffeine and .

Let that kick in full blast and then we sit down and try to do math it's not very difficult nothing wrong with that had been crazy and excited but when we're trying to achieve certain goals we just learn to think about things in that fashion we be more focused more calm no Disneyland state of mind is is for Disneyland yes .

Yes so setting yourself up and making a plan for the environment that we're gonna go encounter or work a situation and be able to overcome that it's kind of cool yes yeah the teachers not gonna teach what everybody's going crazy that's right we just sit down to focus and then we have recess we have gym whatever the case is so what we're what .

Would be some examples that you would save some positivity that comes through them hey is this is weird if you haven't maybe experienced it or a practice enough for dogs dogs know how you feel when I'm positive and happy they know that but you know I I I do a lot of positivity in the way I do things I used my voice oh do a lot of allow a lot of .

Things but I can also see when things are getting out of control and it's a lot of like whoa too much letting them know we use treat training sometimes you know I actually think it was more of like our scale yeah I'm sure discussed at some point of you know where are you on almost balanced scale you have a negative side .

Which is nervous or anxious very excitable I I do a lot of what dogs are unsure nervous I bring a little something positive to pull them out of the negative Hoey yes to bring them more to that zero balance stage this is where we were making mistake is a natural human do you know when to stop yeah right the dog he's nervous with me .

I'm a stranger there in my center there let's say they're in a crater they're outside and they're really shy you know I can understand I'm a little shy and bring a little sweetness something positive to get them moving but then not overdoing it I don't want to take a nervous dog and create an excited dog right right right in the middle so that .

They can understand balance so let's teach everybody our scale because that's gonna really allow us to share a lot of information okay so zero is like the middle of the road it's happy relaxed submissive dog who's just feeling good and chill below zero behaviors or things like worry nervous fearful anxious and we make the .

Negative side down there the above side would be hyper excited dominant aggression anything in that family of yours playful / playful right so if we think 0 and then 1 to 10 on either side of that then we have to kind of calibrate ourselves when we're working with people because sometimes I think it's a level 2 and they say it's a level .

8 so 10 being the worst that you could ever imagine and one being the thoughts right so we're big thought catchers we once you are efficient and proficient and seeing language you can see these little thoughts and some things then so probably our biggest difference between us and others and part of being in the natural world means that we also .

Disagree with behaviors absolutely and balance and all things yeah so that's really what makes us difference and I would say the hardest thing for most people is taking excitement and reducing it down to calm dealing with adrenalin that way right because adrenalin is a big part of the issue with dogs and high-energy dogs .

Harder they are and coming back to our soft lovey side we when I say we I said most most of us I would say I haven't met many people that see it differently unless it just gets on your nerves and your wor down excitement is not necessarily happy no excitement can just be excitement overwhelming yes no I think we understand it because you know .

But in this boat at one point of my life is you see happiness seem to intensify when you get them excited but in all honesty I think most of us could agree if you take away the excitement they're just as happy yes it's just I personally says I know that I enjoy seeing about Weebly totally a time for that yes there's a time for cuttin loose and .

Playing and being a level-10 playful which totally there's a time just like taking our kids back to the restaurant there's a time when we're meeting new people when we're in public when we're socializing in a non-playable way we come back at as much as I like it and the dog likes it but water don't need mm-hmm and it's not always what I've I .

Don't get caught up and always with the dog once he's like me as a father father my children do whatever they want all the time it's gonna cause a problem at some point they don't know sure most of us at a certain point in our life appreciated the rules and boundaries our parents created for us as children even though we did not feel that way until .

This moment oh gosh yes we parents you know and even if you don't have children you've been around children so we understand that children who understand boundaries who know how to focus who have control over their impulses who are spending spontaneous all the time or happier children what comes down to mental exercise is majority is thinking .

Yes I thinking about how you're behaving less in school we call it what art in math yes math and PE work vacation it's a different state of mind they have the place yeah and if we don't allow them to think about how to approach things properly the brain never works does an exercise energy builds up and this is where we we really all experienced this .

I think when the energy builds up it layers up and it's got to find its way out somewhere it's very rarely is gonna find its way out in a behavior or a state of mind that that we enjoy it might be a healthy outlet right it could be chewing licking not listening barking barking struck today once again my kids know as you know .

JT is my son he's five he's he's very well-behaved and and but he is he's a high-energy child baby the high-energy lover and let's say if it were to rain for a solid week or two like if sometimes does here in Georgia if I don't get him out get him busy we don't find some way to stimulate him he can't like I've seen this he can't help it he .

May come out of his room he's got one of his toys he's been all boy he's banging it around bail out really noisy and so we have to have the no no no let's calm down or you can take that to your room or to the playroom he's very polite so it's yes sir he goes no no arguing yeah but I can promise you ten minutes later he's back outside with a whole different .

Toy doing very similar things and he the energy is there he's got to come out he goes he focuses he listens but then it builds his way back up how many times have we seen that oh yeah the dog chews the dog does this it's a nice dog they listen listen but they're gonna do it again right and again we can't be mad at them you know we call it cabin fever I .

Get that way I can't get satisfied you could stand around walk around nothing is making me happy yeah so cabin fever comes from the house in the yard now it's in the yard house in the yard you know when did you go for a walk well four weeks ago last year but I've got a huge backyard yes well you stay every day mm-hmm which .

Is all good yeah never bad never beat you for that we don't think about it this place right yeah well we don't you know so I also have a non-profit you know we all know that here but I introduced everybody else to tell dog Corps and you know so I get to visit poor countries and see a lot of street dogs and I always go back to street dogs .

They don't migrate in the way that birds might migrate or wildebeest might migrate but they move they do have territories that they do move and they work all day not all day but they have to work for what they get there's no kibble in the bowl right and so when I'm around a street dog population nobody pests them these are the crazy Americans .

Who go to holiday they're not just out biting people you're not seeing there's some things I really noticed about street dogs and I come here you'll hear me talk about these a lot because they are the epitome of dogs they are domestic dogs who haven't been corrupted by people yeah and so we get to see this natural side .

Of them but they scavenge they scavenge maybe a tiny bit of hunting but those guys are tired they're zero OCD behaviors zero think granulomas on your feet there's zero repetitive things there's no radical aggression it's pretty cool thing to see even though I will say that most dogs who live in places like that are miserable from lack .

Of health care or like a food wreck so so mentally if they're probably more stable and happy in many actually yes however I do have one of these little pot cakes out of the Bahamas that I brought home she's awesome but I do meet other pot cakes and other dogs who maybe have come from Iraq we meet some who come from Thailand Korea a lot of dog .

Meat farm types and puppy mill types here in America especially so we work with those kind of kids who sometimes when they come off the streets right they become terrorists here in America they start looking aggressive and behaving aggressively and it's because they have now been cooped up they've taken them from a natural state to a .

Prison State you're feeding them you're loving on them but they're not being psychologically satisfied they become Americans great segue to talk about our culture in America and the way that we think and feel about dogs it really creates how we behave with dogs when the rest of the world predominately even if you're let's just say a European you .

Know they're much like us they still don't live the same way that we do it don't totally different mindset right right poor countries are not typically soft and squishy with dogs dogs or dogs mostly live outside sometimes living inside but mostly outside and they're a little more of an animal in those .

Countries yes I've been in Europe right there much like we are very civilized industrialized I must say nobody else's symbolize or just progressive but nobody people in Europe don't ask to pet your dog when you're Republican they're everywhere right so I found out the first time I went years ago I thought that was pretty amazing .

You know being in Paris dogs at you know cafes inside restaurants inside little stores and things like that but I did notice that nobody was walking up asking could I pet your dog there was no interaction and the dogs were so in tune with their people many times they're not even on a leash look they're just following through the city you know I've .

Heard Americans say I wonder if that dog belong to anybody so it's a really interesting I talk a lot about how the American culture keeps us in business it's true we do things like Americans like go sit at a Starbucks for the cute little thing they're not even a cute little thing just a dog sit a Starbucks or a restaurant and write many many .

People are gonna come and try to pet your dog now we're not saying don't pet dogs right but we're teaching dogs humans equal crazy just because I may not do it or do it very often doesn't mean I don't want to I am a human we I have the urge yes yeah it's also why I have 22 touching lives and interactive yes we love to touch animals now we're .

Not anti touch but back to dogs kind of making associations to things that every time a person walks up to you and they have a excitable bit of a party with you what you think that meeting a person equals excitement what's creating an energy okay how how hard is it to be connected to pay attention to to be with the human if you're constantly .

Distracted with a very positive little reward so let's say it's hard for me to expect my children to be focused on me and not get lost or distracted constantly if they know every time we go out in public somebody has candy cupcakes there are constantly a person oh my god you're so cute here have this it's a .

Reward is something that they like and so of course we go out there ting ting where's the next person what's going on here even if it's not looking for certain things we don't have the the amount of connectivity that we need right I say the majority of their focus is out in the world and this is the way I think we've got a 100% to work .

With yeah I think things are healthy when I have 51% or more it depends on the dog or the animal the child whatever is going on it's all the same to me enjoy what's going on you know if your dog sniff look use your nose use your eyes usually ears but let's stay within a certain boundary and that boundary .

Creates you being connected to you and always give me your attention when I asked for it which that is really the secret sauce the juice of life with your dog is you should be able to get your dog's attention no matter what he for your relationship and safety right if we live like that we'd be running into things constantly walking down the .

Street we've seen this and how many times people have run into you in possibly because they're not paying right now everybody's got their heads and their phones they're texting and walking and it could be dangerous we have to moderate the dogs it's the same thing you teach them to be all over the place .

Listen they get caught up at the moment yeah can you blame them missile exercise and physical exercise that combination opens up the little flower of the brain always that entire dogs kind of like JT they're closed down right tired dogs listen to you crucial you can have a lot of freedom and this is where I think there's a lot of misconceptions and .

Misinterpretations and as a human I think it's natural to focus on the things that we hear about maybe this style of operating that is that it's not pleasant the parts that we don't enjoy and it is it's the restrictive side we don't think about the positivity because there is a lot of freedom yes now sometimes you have to work your way to .

Get to that point and that's the painful process for for us as the patients but it's it's it's all balanced I think everything that we do is finding is we talk so much about balance our scale about the brain is about balance you know our our techniques and our philosophy even is finding a balance between what .

We believe and well how we operate in what others do you know some are open-minded to us some are not that's natural you know it's it's but I think a lot of people focus on the same thing they think that we're mean it were harsh we're saying no alot and it makes it a negative thing the dogs having a negative experience is really not I .

Wanna say no where's necessary one as many times as it takes for the dog to understand because the other side you may not realize is as they behave in a more proper way things are opening up there's freedom immediately because that's them for me that's the natural rewards much as I want to say good boy I don't because I .

Don't want to create too much excitement which maybe puts us back to square one I just relaxed the rules relax we get to do more we start moving more you know more positive things more places play you're in the house and it's my feeling it's the vibe it's you know maybe whatever he does you like to do with the more they they understand the more we .

Get to do ya mean how many people cannot take their dogs places nice or whether they're having a behavioral issues is more serious because they can't control the dog roll back to rules equal freedom you hear me say that a million times because the more someone understands or something and understands then the more we get to go versus having to leave them .

At the house absolute here's here's something for those that could be even questioning and listening to this because I try to put myself in the shoes of somebody who's never been in this world you have to also think about this dogs do not learn the way we learn like we read a book we sit down we'll take a course somebody tells us what to do .

We're guided through the whole process verbally we get a lot of steps step by step instruction we know what to do before we're doing it or as we're doing it makes things easy don't have the option we can't talk to the dog we can't show them they can't read it so they learn more what like most creatures what you have to have whatever experience .

You're having there has to be some sort of connect in there whether it's good it's bad I do I don't and this is where as a human you can implement timing through your disagreements and they can learn by process of elimination called the path of least resistance the path I want the dogs to find is I .

Promise no different than anybody else it's fun it's it's happy it's love it's it's all the good things but I know the fastest way to get there the dog to understand how to do it what to do and be more more stable as I let them naturally make their own decision and I block it if it's inappropriate or I slow it down until they do it properly sounds .

Like you're funneling them into yes I say you know put us in the same situation you dropped in a situation you've never done nobody can talk to you or tell you what to do you've got to figure it out the easiest thing is for me to try this is somebody's like operation you find the boundaries and you figure out how to do it the key is .

You do it without don't scream don't yell don't feel angry don't be angry don't try to intimidate the dog emotional it's stopping trying to gain some sort of connection control attention we Center and then we retry it retry it this is how they learn now there are people who maybe take this similar concept and they're way too .

Harsh they're way too mean well they're not in control of themselves they get frustrated they get angry and then you've got just the outside perception most of us have gotten the look from their parents their spouse correct normally the ones you making me exactly even on that topic we deal with a lot of nervous anxious dogs .

It's very common predominance I have I know for a fact it works very well to put a light amount of pressure on the dog that maybe makes them feel uncomfortable only to pull it back away like a normal thing let's say they're nervous and they they bark at me I disagree with it but then I back off as soon as they stop barking just to show .

Them wasn't a big deal and they go doesn't push them in a hole like many of us may think okay you don't put pressure on the nervous doll gonna make it worse it's actually no now they trust me yes I said hey that was bounce and I relax if you're nervous right now somebody is hiss set-screws sorry but somebody set rules .

Somebody somebody said what is not going to happen or what's inappropriate which means they're taking control somebody's taking some status so you're nervous you're not built to have that status any that's right and they did it in a way that did not promote fear my cognitive therapy with humans you're gonna do something that .

Makes you uncomfortable but then in the end result if the therapist is doing it correctly you don't have a negative experience positive I would say it's kind of like for me you know it's also funny I say you didn't die yeah you got to come out I didn't die nothing bad happened it wasn't as traumatizing as it .

Was as I thought it might be and yes maybe you don't love it you're not comfortable with it but you're a little micro step closer yeah and then the repetition and the repetition and as things are allowing to you can start to make it bigger mm-hmm it's almost like you're putting a little something to numb that nerves over time over time you .

Kind of it gets less sensitive and less sensitive so the more you practice the easier it gives plus when you take over the dogs you begin the process of trust the structure brings about trust and if you're nervous and fearful you need to trust somebody absolutely because I call it the middle schooler that pays the mortgage when you have a nervous dog who .

Is in charge of their family that is why you're seeing all this over reactivity I don't know what to do with it they can't cuss you out right so they try to bite you it's an overreaction we do the same thing in areas when when the stress hits and it comes down to do or die you freak out the best defense is a big office sometimes you know that might .

Roll through my head if I were in a situation I felt completely overwhelmed and helpless for some weird reason maybe be one of my weird dreams I'm gonna be attacked by a group of people if I don't know what to do my last option might be I'm just gonna act like a crazy maniac and hopefully they run away it works about me and we see .

That it's natural stones that's why help well there's a few things to learn about not taking it personally you know we will kind of fall back on the things that we kind of meant we see is like mentoring behaviors and how we get here but not taking things personally a teaching when a dog does something they're not supposed to do it .

Has nothing to do with you right you know most people are so narcissistic it's everything to do with them and then they get mad and upset because we're trying to teach the dog something dogs not listening well it's process processes yes progressed through and teach so not to be upset and then the other side of .

That is thinking about like what is praise right so praises a lot of things not all dogs were food motivated we deal with those you know we talk with different dog analyses and different human a luyties in that match but some dog analogies are zero in the food but maybe they're awesome sniffers maybe they're super social maybe they just .

Want to sniff to new human coming in well I just teach you if you calm down you get to snip the person's rights maybe the person doesn't give you a tree you don't care about that or maybe you're a crazy ball ever so maybe new people can make friends threw a ball after we meet quietly um all sorts of things people coming into .

The house people like it I don't let the dog come to the person right away it's so crazy so once you calm down the reward is whatever it is you want to do in this moment as long as it's healthy so good praise to be so many different things we just have to learn to see it it's individual well we hope we've given this .

Kind of introduction so you can see who we are some you know people call me the dr. Phil of the dog world because I'm brutally honest and I believe in being brutally honest because it's how I help you it's not making excuses for a dog or human ever but normally when we start pointing things out and we're trying to understand why they became this way in .

Their family some many people want to make excuses for the dog because they loved them so much it's kind of like enabling behavior in the human world yes and like you mentioned what we do with dogs is literally cognitive behavioral therapy just like people do it's just that we call it natural dog behavior or dog .

Psychology but they need to go into situations that cause problems yes and learn how to work them we don't believe in distracting a dog from a problem mm-hmm no distracting a dog if you're less reactive you need to learn how to look at the dog and pay yes we don't wanna make you look away right so these are .

Some of the real basic things we're gonna get deep into we're gonna get super deep into kids and dogs really making that connection we're having a lot of kid problems right now with the lack of structure and rules with children and if you like this these thoughts some ways of thinking I think you'll enjoy what we do and you know but .

If you listen to Tony Robbins you'll love us if you're a Cesar Millan lover you'll love us if you've never been in Wayne Dyer Eckhart Tolle Oprah Winfrey all these teachers in the world who really have some cool things to say and it's kind of where I get all my thoughts feeling in education yeah always be the student absolutely never stop being .

Students dogs teach us things every day people teach us things every day I love people not just dogs I don't prefer dogs over people I love them both wrap up with and we're gonna we would love to see your comments down below because we want to know what you want to know I was gonna say I wanna know you know not only you know what specific topics do you .

Want to know more about or issues or problems I want to only really tap into the community that feels that's curious about this but maybe feels like it is too abrasive or they're nervous about it or the problems that may cause because I really like to focus a lot on getting everybody understanding and liking it on board that wants to be that maybe has a .

Hard time so that I can explain the soft side of what you may be seen as a little forward or abrasive and getting in my head and seeing how we do things yeah and so much is like we say there's so many things that you can do they don't know what they seem it looks like what it feels like it's all about the intention and the way you do it .

You're disagreeing doesn't have to be a bad thing rule city doesn't have to be a bad thing they can be yes just like in our world yeah there are some people who have rules and boundaries and they are not nice about it yes some love their job when they are here to make a difference in our community and they do it well yes .

It requires cooperation mm-hmm the cooperation doesn't always have to be an option this is what I want to get into ZZZ you know what do you seeing further further explanation I will put some links to will make some show notes and such and we'll put some links on some things that we enjoy learning and .

Reading about maybe share you know we also love the Pirellis Linda and Pat Parelli they are natural horsemanship people just like we are natural dog people we are working on dog analogy together which is a dog's personality assessment coming out very soon the beta testing as we speak and we got a lot of cool stuff on the .

Horizon the book will be ready here shortly but yeah we want to hear questions we're not afraid of positive or negative questions we'd like to implement help people an answer and we know that not everybody is gonna agree with us that's okay mm-hmm we really believe in forming a tribe and come on if not ask questions we're okay with it .

Right that nature is nature we don't fight it and we just hope to bring more people into this instinctual side balance we won't find the balance between nature in the human world we've got to find an in-between that's right we are who we are we are we are we just want everybody to be happy so really our our message is really deeply seated in .

Love and positivity but also in mother nature and how she does things which means there's a yin and a yang yes then I know I'm positive in a negative but not negative isn't hurtful it's just a teaching through it so hopefully this message will spread we hope that you take it and you teach somebody else and turn them on to our podcasts absolutely .

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