Friday, May 27, 2022

RepairTalk Live | The Difference Between Hard and Soft OLED Assemblies

hello everybody welcome to repair talk live it is very nice to see you i have survived making it to the studio uh by driving in my little pontiac vibe with not great tires through a half foot of snow and then it'll probably be a foot of snow by the time i leave so i am happy to be inside a .

Building and doing this and not outside um today we are going to be talking about uh the difference between our screen lines and and more so the differences between different screen technologies there's soft oled and hard oled which you saw on the thumbnail there's also incel and tft .

Um which is the differences between two lcd displays and then we have this thing called prime which is also soft oled but it's different than normal soft oled what is that about um but sometimes our prime is not soft oled and i'll kind of show you what i'm talking about here to jump right into it .

This is our screen line breakdown page i've been here multiple times and you'll see things are weirdly mixed and matched it seems right i have prime here and we say that prime is an in cell panel and here i say prime is an lcd panel and here i say prime is a soft .

Oled panel literally prime is a different technology for every single one of our screens and the reason for that is that prime is supposed to be our best representation of what comes on an original iphone and these iphones came with in cell panels these iphones came with lcd or tft sometimes is how .

They're referred to panels and these iphones came with soft oled panels so on my desk i have the lot the spread and an iphone 11 pro and we're gonna go through and install each of these screens onto our .

11 pro this thing is already uh naked it needs to be uh covered up on camera um and we'll start with uh hard oled and we're going to move up and i'm kind of basing that off of here if i zoom in you can kind of see we have hard let me say in cell we have soft and then we .

Have our premium soft or prime line so i'm gonna take a second to see who all is here got cpr hello hello angela good afternoon to you uh some people tuning in from louisburg from ohio uh and the link is is in the chat as well um you can always like said if you .

Want to see the comments as i'm responding to them because i'll be looking the whole time and you're always welcome to uh appeal to my adhd brain and we can derail onto questions as well i always kind of like having that back and forth if you have a different issue going on in your shop .

Or have questions or need to clarify about the subject of today so uh which iphone are you using for the demo 11 pro not the regular 11 that's a very different phone as .

Shown here in a very different category and not the 11 pro max because that's a big boy yeah i guess i could have brought the big boy maybe that would have been a good idea but i didn't back to here so .

Let us as uh some people like to say jump into it um i think we're gonna start out with uh hard oled and um you know i did just say i said it's gonna hard in cell and soft but let's .

Focus on the oled panels uh to start with and i kind of found there's not a whole lot of great diagrams but i did find a couple that i liked quite a bit and this is one and i think the main thing to take away from this is outlets are pretty simple like you see four things here i would say .

There's three things here which is there's the touch panel the digitizer is how that's often referred to uh there's the oled panel the display the thing you're looking at and then the polarizer and the polarizer is the thing that um .

Its main purpose is for basically refracting light properly polarizer also is the thing that causes issues if it's not a good polarizer for your sunglasses customers who come back to you and say i look at my phone with my sunglasses and i can't see anything um and so that's that's a sign of a bad .

Polarizer but you need a polarizer to help refract the light uh get it to show through properly um and it helps make the screen work properly it's kind of like that that that final layer to to get everything through to go so let us go ahead and just start throwing screens on here so i'm gonna go ahead and put this in my .

In my nifty stack it's gonna go off to the side and we will start putting this on so you're gonna notice right off the bat as it should be all of these screens are gonna look .

Very similar in the box you really shouldn't notice that much of a difference um even if i kind of zoom in and show you you know more specifically what we look at here it's gonna have all the telltale signs you know you look down here um if i were to show an oem iphone it .

Would kind of be laid out all the same obviously the colors and stickers would be different because we we make these and so it's not supposed to be a one to one but it's got the right connectors it's good to go now the thing that you would be able to actually use and identify .

In a hard oled versus a soft oled the thing that will kind of give away what this phone is is going to be down here and i will show you a picture i have that kind of demonstrates this a little bit more i would say so this is a photo of apple's iphone x when it .

First released like when they announced it on stage they went through the whole marketing campaign and they showed this like beautiful soft oled design and the way they demonstrated it and the way they sort of were advertising how thin they got the bezels is they basically said they .

Wrapped the display towards the bottom so that it brought the display closer to all of the edges of the device and you know this is not actual usable display this image would lead you to believe that like oh if you like took apart a screen you know you would be able to see more pixels and more lights .

Going on here but this is part of the electronics the chips are on here um all of the the kind of the brains are actually on this kind of piece of stuff that they wrap underneath the display but because they can wrap it and it's flexible that's what allows them to sort of get the display to take up more of the borders and that would be .

One of your first differences between this and a hard oled which is one of the biggest things you have to overcome on a hard oled display is getting the bezel to to be as thin as an original iphone it's getting the hard oled technology to be able to spread out and get to that .

Edge because you can't get your heart outlet to wrap like this so you have to end your heart oled right here where it's supposed to end and then you have to try and fit your technology here and and get all of the things that's going to work you can still do some .

Wrapping here but it's not going to be as seamless and it won't work quite as well but technology has advanced especially in oled stuff over the last you know four years since the iphone 10 came out in five years four years i would say closer to four .

And so we can we can get pretty close um so let's put this together get it turned on hello iabc sandusky and we'll see how this looks and oled is oled is oled um if you're not familiar with the basic .

Difference the biggest advantage of an oled screen versus a non-oled screen so we're not talking about software's hard we're just saying oh lit if it has oled in the name and if it is not an oled is the image is pretty phenomenal mainly because it is .

Lit each pixel has its own backlight or brightness controller is kind of another way to think about it where if i show you for instance if i turn this on and i show you the apple logo all of these this stuff right here is is not even on it's not just black .

It's off it's it's turned off pixels and these pixels are turned on on an lcd you have one backlight generally you know sometimes more but you have one backlight that has to illuminate this entire screen and so you get that look like you probably are familiar with watching tv .

At night where you have something goes black on your screen but it's actually like kind of blue and that's because the backlight can only go down so low it can only turn down as much as it can and you'll have that kind of dark bluish look to everything because you can't actually turn each individual pixel .

Pixel off and that is why oled is considered a much prettier better technology in some ways so this is going to just work and it is an oled screen and so it's going to be very vibrant obviously this kind of stuff is hard to show on camera but there's not a whole lot more to show .

You here and i would say the last thing that would be pretty important to know about hard oled versus soft oled is kind of just in the name which is that hard oled is quite literally a a glass oled design like the oled layer itself .

Is on a they called a hard substrate basically it is more fragile it is a technology that is more cost effective and gets you a visual result that's a lot closer to an original iphone screen but the downside it is it is a more fragile screen because it is not a flexible display it is a it is a hard display with a glass .

Kind of material makeup um so that is the thing you have to to be careful about with hard oled and that's why we can offer something like that at a much improved price jim king is late it's like when you watch a kid walk into class and everybody just kind of stares at him in the teacher .

Puts the hands on the hips and just gives the shame it's okay i'm just happy you're here so i am gonna move on to softo lid there's not gonna be a whole lot to say um about soft oled because we just did a lot of the explanation with hard oled um .

Cpr self interface so the hard oled is easier to break yes um not only is it and when they say easier to break we're not talking about like you know cracking your glass like you know like your typical cracked glass that people bring in their phones for we're talking about the display layer .

Right we're not talking about glass on top we're talking about the visual thing you're looking at so it's not uncommon with a good drop that the display will just stop working even though it looks from the outside like you know it's nothing's cracked i didn't break anything i don't see any any glass shards or anything like that but the .

Actual display the visual oled layer is made of a glass as well and that can crack on its own and so that's the thing you have to be careful of it don't be embarrassed jim showing up is worth .

The grade you get a b automatic for being here you get an a for participating what you're doing i don't know what kind of grade school i'm in right now okay i'm getting a select soft oled this is kind of our like our .

Recommended screen i select mobile defender select is always the the screen line that we generally recommend for pretty much everybody you know if you always have questions like i don't know which one i should get you should get our select line because it's supposed to represent the closest .

To original visual and look and design that you can get with the benefit of a lower cost and um you know we we make it and we we try to find the best value without sacrificing really any performance .

To that point we give our screen lines here we talk about the brightnesses right and and the kind of the metrics that we look forward we see and our select is a is a tighter um .

Guidelines than our choice our in cell our heart oled or regular incel lcd it is a pretty strict guideline and this is talking about color accuracy um if it's hitting all of the colors of the rainbow and on the spectrum the lower this is like the closer to zero uh the more perfect it is um and then this is the brightness how bright .

Can it get and then this is the the white balance just the general when white is showing on the screen is it hitting that perfect in the middle temperature between kind of a yellow and blue is it actually white or is it leaning one way or the other um and then we also our polarizer um is called anti-glare polarizer there are .

Some polarizers that when you turn them you can see a little bit of sort of like we call it glare some people call it rainbowing where you just kind of see some extra colors going on in there it doesn't actually get too much in the way of visibility but it's just a little distracting um and so that's the thing that we upgrade to make sure that it is .

Nice and crystal clear in any way that you turn your phone um so that you can see it and that'll be very very similar to an original in that design i would say the best thing about here that we are giving you that you're probably not going to find in most places is we promise full view polarizers on all of our product and .

What that means is there are plenty of screens out there where you with sunglasses go to look at your phone like this and it just goes black you won't see anything if you've got polarized sunglasses and you turn your phone the wrong way it you will be looking at what looks like an off phone and nothing will be there so guaranteeing a full view .

Polarizer is a step that mobile defenders takes that you won't really find guaranteed by most people so and then the anti-glare is just a little cherry on top for all of that all right so this is on it's looks pretty similar to the heart hole .

It as it should i would say if i were to pull out like measuring sticks and stuff you might notice that right towards the edge here um we try to get this as close as possible sometimes there's like a fraction of a millimeter difference and then also sometimes you know if you're .

Looking at an all white screen you may notice that the kind of color accuracy on the very very edge might not be like picture perfect because again you're trying to squeeze that hard oled with a very strict not flexible display to the edges as much as you can where other stuff is that it's colliding into and so you might find that you don't get .

A crisp image from corner to corner edge to edge you might have just a touch of um blur or color defecting again we're talking like a fraction of a millimeter so not too big of a deal but that's that's the difference right that's what saves you money um for little change that's kind of the .

Whole point it's finding the the value points that whatever you need andrew you mean with anti-glare i can finally stop getting dirty looks at the grocery store uh i guess so i mean i could my dirty looks all come from uh talking with airpods on and people thinking i'm yelling at them .

Uh not yelling communicating to them uh okay so if we have any questions about ola differences between hard and soft you should ask now and i can kind of dive into that a little bit before we kind of move away from it like i said as a .

Reflection or as a reminder we have the soft oled which you find on basically all iphone or all displays any any phone that ships with an oled display it's probably going to be a soft oled i mean you know there's might be some very .

Budget devices out there you know stuff that gets shipped from from china or from korea that are designed to be like very very low market value maybe those come with hard oleds i'm not actually sure off the top of my head if any devices do ship with hard oled displays um but the vast majority of oleds are softer .

Led usually because oled is marketed as like a premium feature and so usually that they want to make sure that it looks premium and a harder lid might not be a very premium thing to get getting this display off and again very simple .

Polarizer there's the display there's the touch panel if anything this is actually missing there's the glass layer that goes on top here they're kind of calling the touch panel the glass layer here it really is two different things um the the the digitizer that detects .

Your touch and the glass that goes on top of that are not fused into the same thing so i don't know if there's going to be a difference in the technology in the future and you'll kind of see what i'm getting at when we talk about incel but .

It is an interesting differentiator from how in-cell lcd displays work looks like we've got a whole poll going up what type of screen do you currently use for iphone 11 pro there's a poll in the chat right now between hard old and soft oled i'd be curious to know if most of you are .

Putting harlot oled displays on customers phones or software displays which one you felt like you've grown towards uh right now it seems like soft oled uh incel lcd and primes are on there too okay do the whole it feels like i'm uh i'm putting video games away but like i .

I'm trying to avoid that habit of like putting the old video game into the new case and being like oh i'll get to it later and then you start looking for your games and suddenly everything is you know in the wrong pile you open up one disc and you get the other disc .

Happens to me a little too much okay thanks for the kitty cat banker it makes my day all right this is uh our lcd or in-cell lcd this is going to be an interesting one and so you kind of need multiple devices to .

Kind of break down the complexities of in-cell screens versus non-in-cell screens and even some in-cell screens can can vary quite a bit from other in-cell screens this is a great starting point right i'm already telling you that um there is minutia in this .

But there are a couple generalizations we can get into about in cell screens i think we should start with this beautiful diagram this is a very nice diagram that i like quite a bit so there's a few things in here that actually are on the oled displays that were left off the remember the diagram i .

Showed you that kind of was oversimplified a few of these things actually belong in there as well so there's obviously the front glass the glass is is literally just a piece of glass on your phone when you crack your glass you know oftentimes your phone still works perfectly fine because it's just a piece of glass it's more of a .

Protection layer than anything it is a protection layer more than anything else so you have your front glass on any display this is called oca it's another term it's it's glue essentially it's how glass is glued to the rest of your display assembly it's a special kind of glue .

That you can see through perfectly and it adheres it goes right in the middle of the glass there's different ways to apply it but it's designed to be a completely transparent as glass glue layer to put glass on top of everything else so this is your your glue glass layer called oca .

Sometimes people call it loca loca liquid oca this is called oca because it's just a film and is heat treated and you know kind of melted into place with such very specific tools loca is like a gloppy tube and you put like a big old thing in the middle and you kind of squish it all and down and then .

You cure it uh loco is no fun it smells funny you need like uv lighting tools to get everything to go together um it's kind of the home repair method for doing this and not many people do it for a lot of reasons um you have your front polarizer we've talked about polarizers before allow you .

To see your display with sunglasses also allow the image to come through it and kind of does all the refraction it needs on that lcd layer to to make it work properly and then this is where we start getting into why incel is in cell um lcd plus touch sensor or layer .

Um right this whole thing is that incel is called that way because the touch of a digitizer is integrated in between the pixels of the lcd um i wonder if i can quickly show you pop to my face real quick .

I could have prepared a picture of a digitizer for you kind of show you how a digitizer works very simply and quickly and you might have noticed it before you there are certain i think i always noticed it on uh ipad screens sometimes you know there are certain very very cheap .

Uh ipad screens where you notice um like a grid in in your glass right an ipad glass we're talking about not a full assembly ipad but one you can just remove the glass off of which also has the touch the digitizer um you'll often notice these very very .

Um kind of very thin grid lines that kind of go across the whole thing and that is the the digitizer that is how the touch panel works um for some reason i can't find a good video or a good good photo where they want to .

Show it to me but basically the digitizer is just wires vertically and horizontally and when you touch it you are electrifying you are electro conductive that's a word take that to my grave you are conductive and so when you touch a digitizer it can calculate um where you touched it with these vertical .

And horizontal lines kind of like a and just sort of hone in on your on your specific point and so that's how digitizer works is basically when you touch it it uses your conductiveness to pinpoint with grid lines where you touched it so all that to say when you have a lcd touch sensor you .

Have to fit this grid of wires in between pixels of a display and that's kind of how incel technology works that's why it's called in cell the cells of pixels it's inside of them and it's all one layer and the and the biggest benefit to this is thinness as you can imagine we're not talking about a separate layer of touch .

We're talking about everything being integrated into the lcd and it also um that the touch layer itself can benefit from this it's kind of a back and forth if you have better touch response or worse touch response uh with an install technology you know there's a simplification of the touch layer which .

Always helps but there's also a need to for thinness and for you know integrating it in between other stuff so there can be interference that comes from that so if install is better touch technology that's neither here or there and really good proof of that is apple .

Used to always make their displays within cell everything from i think the iphone 5 and up um we talked about just the success now because those are kind of their ios support devices but most of apple's displays were all in cell displays and when they made the xr and the 11 they moved away from that the .

Xr and 11 have separate lcd and touch panels that's why our prime line which is designed to sort of emulate that is a premium sourced lcd and touch panel but we have found apple's choice to go for non-in-cell displays was a cost cutting measure you have to remember the xr and the 11 were .

Were budget devices right they came out alongside the oled devices which were like the premium beautiful screens and so they designed these displays to be as cost cutting as possible their resolutions were super low they're like 720p on like a six inch display um all of these kind of very cost .

Cutting measures they had the same brightness as like iphone 7's you know um so like i said that that was kind of their choice they didn't really need the the bezels are super thick on those displays for that reason the phones are super thick um and that's that's why it's because they chose to go not in in cell and .

That's why we have actually found for us making our select line in so has given us a better product if if we're sourcing you know premium quality parts and aftermarket parts it turns out that making an install panel kind of gives you room to make a higher grade display and meet those metrics properly .

We've really liked incel we can fit a better polarizer in there because the screen is so thin and it allows us to put a lot more juice into our backlight i think you'll often find these days that a lot of aftermarket xr and 11 displays can outperform an original um .

Because of this because it was intentionally a cost coding measure and so you may find with advanced pieces of technology there are ways to kind of beat original iphones in in brightnesses and some of those things um and then of course we still offer an aftermarket lcd option and that's going to actually have a very similar you know .

Build to a separate digi and glass so all that to say let's pop this thing on here um first thing right off to notice here in cells can have some differences i .

Wish i had brought um a different install display our xr and 11 displays maybe you've noticed this or maybe you haven't if you ever have an in-cell display for a phone that wasn't designed to be in cell a lot of times they have what are called .

Dummy flexes this is not one of those displays it's kind of a a niche case but you will often find that one of the flexes on an incel display is completely fake it doesn't actually do anything and it's because incel is so tightly integrated the touch and the lcd are so tightly integrated .

That you can just put all of the technology on a single flex so if you ever get a display that has a flex that's just like flapping around or it looks like it's falling off the phone there's a good chance it's an in-cell display that you're installing onto a phone that wasn't designed to be in cell .

Which is not necessarily inherently a bad thing but it doesn't it just doesn't mean that it's defective necessarily it just means it's you know they put it there just to have it there it's good peace of mind i think a lot of people don't understand the super crazy finite details of all of these display technologies and so they would rather .

Just put the dummy flex there and make sure people don't um freak out if it's just missing a flex right if anybody the vast majority of people out there if they opened a screen and it had one connector and it was supposed to have two i think most people would immediately just throw in the trash or .

Send it back and so they put two connectors on there you know go ahead and go through it but now you know if you see something like that and it looks like one of your connectors are flying off you might not need it but it's always good to have it there especially if a customer you know takes it to another shop after you've prepared .

It and that shop tells them oh you know they don't understand the differences and they they take the phone off and they say oh that shop ripped you off this only has one flex and not two that's why it's not working properly um that's obviously not what's happening so it's good to have two flexes on there when you can um just kind of calms .

Confusion so to speak so let's pop this on here and we can kind of look at some of the characteristics of an lcd display versus an oled display this time like i said the hard oled and the softer lid don't have a ton of differences in my opinion .

We'll kind of zoom out here oh and i've got my mess um so i think the first thing that's gonna be easiest to see although i'm not really sure how easy on camera it's gonna be to see um is that .

They call it backlight bleeding sometimes but it's that when you have a a black display when you are looking at a black screen where there is supposed to be no light coming through an lcd will have some light coming through it's kind of just inherent to lcd technology it's also something we've kind of gotten used to .

Over the last you know 30 years so i'll pop this boy on jim king they should have been here to learn exactly bring your friends get educated learn how to uh be less confused when you're in the middle of a .

Complicated repair it's kind of not a good time when you're you know trying to rush a phone out the door in an hour to have to learn the differences between an end cell and an oled display not a great time to learn something so now is the greatest time to learn something i don't know what kind of privacy i'm .

Trying to speak here but so it goes all right we have a display we are up everything works as i would sure hope it would um and you're not going to notice a lot of differences i will say i personally noticed something right off the bat i kind of talked about this before i .

Would have to have two phones to kind of pull it up side by side let's pull this puppy off just to make things a little easier um i would say the bezel on that is just a touch thicker than your soft oled bezel for the exact same reason that we talked about before with hard oled which is an .

Lcd is not a flexible thing most displays you know you think about your computer monitor you don't really want to bend that around your knee um and so just like a hard oled a hard display this is also a hard display and so they can't do tricks like wrapping it around edges to try and get the uh .

Borders um as edge to edge as you could with an oled display um also you have things to fit like backlights in there and all sorts of other equipment that oled just doesn't even have right oleds the backlight is the pixels illuminate by themselves .

They're kind of that's why they're called organic leds um the backlight of an ole of an lcd the backlight for an lcd has to shine through it so there's another layer that does the lighting and all that sort of stuff so that's kind of one of the first things you'll notice .

If i pop up a black screen here i kind of doubt yeah this isn't the kind of thing you're really going to be able to see too well on camera maybe if i crank the brightness on it the one thing i would just say is if you were looking at this in person you'd be .

Looking at this and you could very quickly tell it's not actually black you'll see some you know some very low bluish you know from the backlight just just a very faint shine through that comes through there kind of the sort of thing that's best seen in like a very dark room um and that would be the way to go .

Uh so that would be the main characteristics of intel displays which is um that sort of same kind of edge uh bezel kind of effect that you could hardle it from hard displays and of course a very different backlight .

Response not as good contrast right when your blacks aren't completely off you know your your contrast between your darkest and your brightest areas are going to be less and so that's why oled displays typically have a more poppy uh saturated look to them because they can kind of hit you in the face with with contrast so to speak um a lot of people .

Think you know you could put an oled and lcd display side by side and they could be the same brightness but a lot of people will think that the oled display is brighter because it's just the contrast is so much that it it looks like the whites are just so vastly different relative to the blacks that it looks brighter .

Everything's relative right so there's that i think the last important thing to know about an in-cell display you will often find in-cell displays are going to be used in place of oled displays so if a phone was designed to be oled and you're going to try and put an lcd on it a non-oled .

Display on it it's probably going to be incel because oled is a very very thin technology there's not a whole lot of layers here like i said this is skimping on some of the glass and um some of the glue that's involved in the oled display but you know you compare that to this and um this is an incel but .

Incel still needs a front polarizer and a rear prolizer if you had a non-in cell display you have to split these lcd and touch sensors right so now you have an lcd and a touch display and on top of that you have to glue those together so you have another layer of glue that goes between the lcd and touch and another layer of glue that goes between the .

Front glass and everything else so that saves quite a few layers and it gets you much much closer to an oled thinness in cell displays are thin although the displays are super thin and so you kind of need to go in cell if you don't want your phone coming off your display you know very chunky like and that's a big benefit of having that .

Kind of technology so that is one of the biggest benefits um here as well i kind of glossed over this a little bit this is the backlight i've been talking about um it's kind of the final layer this is just where all the light comes from a .

Kind of interesting thing to note you see this little black bar right here that is actually the backlight the backlight itself is made of a bunch of layers on an lcd remember we're not looking at outlet here we're talking about backlit displays lcd displays the actual light is coming from this little bottom section here .

And it's beaming light up through this display here and all this white kind of glossy white stuff you see is a bunch of diffusion films right you think of studio lights they always like those big soft boxes have those big white things over them i mean kind of like .

I don't know if i'm brave enough to kind of show you this stuff right all of this white material you see here it's kind of very similar to how a backlight works when you're talking about this it basically is going to take that light .

And spread it out as evenly as it possibly can um from top to bottom so that the light shows through evenly uh through the entire phone there isn't a different brightness on the bottom of the phone where the lights actually coming from versus the top of the phone and this can be made a bunch of different ways you know there are double .

Backlights backlights from the bottom and the top to help with that dispersion um a lot of lcd displays these days have multiple backlights even like the brand new ipad pros if you've heard of mini led this is a really great kind of image of it this is showing you these are all .

Backlights right this is kind of insane it's they're basically they're trying to get as close to oled as they can where each pixel has its own backlight the way this is working is this is one backlight so this little square you see here on this ipad is exactly um kind of like this one square is that's illuminating the entire screen .

Um and then they put you know something like six or like 10 000 of these inside an ipad display and what that means is that you're going to get a lot closer to that pixel per pixel brightness but you actually still aren't there a pixel is still you know you could still fit 100 pixels in that square maybe 200 and so if i'd you know if i were to .

Bring up an image the size of the square or if i was to bring up an image you know smaller than the square like a single little circle or something like that then you would actually see kind of the it's called haloing you would see all of these lights have to turn on to show you that one little dot that you you're trying to bring up and so you're .

Gonna get light shining through the outsides of the image that's coming up because it it's not per pixel lighting it's it's as close to pixel lighting as it can get and then this is the epitome of you know everything is just always lit up um sometimes people prefer this just .

Because this is kind of can be jarring to kind of see sort of these blooming effects these haloing these sort of inaccurate lighting and it's less apparent on this when you just sort of blanket the whole thing with light um you know we can always get into sort of .

More complex technologies on a different repair talk live you can always ask me about that there's a bunch of stuff that was announced at ces with new oled technologies how oled's gonna change in the future um pixels you know it's you've always heard rgb but it's actually more complicated than that some pixels have an extra .

White pixel in there there's also color filters the way that pixels shine through something and when they change color it's not just you know turning off a certain pixel or not there's different ways that color works it's a whole world out there um so i we kind of toyed around with the idea of getting into sort of future display .

Technology stuff that could be coming to your phone so that'd be fun to talk about as well but for now back to what we're talking about so this is your in-cell display and it is that whole heck of assembly .

There is even less than you would get from a normal uh tft or lcd panel so when you buy an iphone xr and iphone 11 there are more layers than that than there are in this right here so that's kind of what you're dealing with at that point .

All right time to get back to work we're going to pull this puppy off as always battery first battery should always be the last and first thing so to speak on a phone you plug your display in and then you plug the battery in to turn it on if you're turning the phone off .

You pull the battery and then you pull the display off most of you know that just speaking out of my mind there we go okay put my game disc away all right prime um .

The main thing to know about prime is it is our we call it a premium sourced software lid and what that means is that we are looking to source parts that best represent what apple sourced for their .

Parts we want to hit all of those metrics we want to make that screen it's it's prime is our effort to make a screen perform every bit as good if not better than an original display and so we go out of our way to sort of ignore money in a little bit you know ignore ignore the value proposition obviously not make dumb decisions about what we're .

Getting but just just make sure that we are hitting specs as close as we can and that's why you see an even bigger increase in the color act the color accuracy or you know the spectrum it has to hit you see an even tighter white balance target that it needs to hit and .

Um brightness 500 you know people i think brightness is the first thing that people notice on a phone when they get a new phone if a phone was darker than the original it tends to be the first thing that they would be upset about so we decided to bring our brightness minimum um down to our select line we want our .

Select line to be as bright as an original display we want to make sure that you aren't compromising on brightness no matter what display that you're getting because that'll be the most noticeable and that'll be the thing that the customer might want to talk to you about first if it feels like it's a very dark .

Display do you have a preference on screens which one do you use most often i would use select we we call it select for reason because that is typically you know we build that to be our preference it's it's soft outlet i think you'll also find um .

In our poll that a lot of people would agree with me that most people choose soft oled um it depends on the customer right i mean if you have a customer there are some times you get customers who walk in and they just say hey um i want to replace my my phone i want to place a screen on my phone and you .

Start taking the process and they may say something along the lines of like you're going to use an apple screen right and you're kind of like um well i may not be able to get an apple screen you sure you don't want to go to an apple store but if that's not the case then you can say .

Well we have our our prime line right if you can say we have our premium screen that we offer if you're looking to get a display that is every bit like an apple original screen then you know maybe money is not really the important factor to them it's about the look and you can offer them a quick turnaround something with the prime display but .

Generally soft oled select is going to be the thing that that most people get it'll save a customer money which is probably one of the reasons why they're coming to you in the first place and you get all the benefits and durability of a regular soft oled display and it'll be bright and it's going to have great white balance and .

Color accuracy it's got the like new polarizer it really is the best value for sure and prime is just there you know you kind of the exponential thing of returns i forgot what the phrase is but it just if you need the absolute best of the best that's why prime exists but if you need a heck of a bang for buck for a really .

Really great screen then i would go soft hold it um hard oled i'm not exactly sure i mean there's a lot of reasons to get harlow it if you have a customer who um babies their phone a lot or they're looking for a really really cheap repair um .

To to but to keep the visual properties of an oled display intact um a lot of times customers have to are getting their phone fixed to go trade it in that's a pretty popular thing you know they went to verizon to trade their phone in for a new iphone 13 and they said well it's cracked sorry we can't .

Take it so they come to you and they okay i want a cheap fix um they might want to get a heart only because they don't want to take it to verizon and they'll look at it and if it's an lcd you know maybe a really savvy um salesman at verizon might look at that and and say .

This looks really bad or you know they may look at the the way the black screen looks and they go this doesn't look like an oled screen whatsoever whereas a hard oled does look like an oled screen and that will be what they need that's kind of a lot of carrier's minimum requirement is a it's a functioning screen to go into it so .

That's good reason like i said if you're not worried about durability that's also a great reason you get a heck of a good looking screen for a really really good price and i would say if durability is important to you uh and you're willing to sacrifice on quality a little bit on the visual quality then you would want to go with .

An lcd display so that's why there's there's quite a few options here it's durability or i should say durability versus visual quality uh and then soft oled is the best of both worlds angela berger what if a customer is a repeat offender if there is is there a more durable screen over the other um .

Yeah so like i said my first question to you is if if they're um a repeat offender what kind of display are you putting on their phone um if you're putting a hard oled on their phone i think that's a great sign to you know get them into something different .

And i would even you know say getting them into a soft hole that would help it just kind of depends on on what's breaking right a repeat offender doesn't mean they just keep breaking the glass on their phone but the display is working just fine or are they actually .

Knocking out the the display so that you can't visually see anything and use the phone anymore you know which one of those two is is kind of happening um if you find that the glass is breaking a lot then you know your best bet would be to keep you know throw tempered glasses on there um make sure that they they have a case but stuff on .

Their phone uh also make sure that you are i can kind of show you what i'm talking about here if you haven't noticed every time i've opened up one of these displays it comes with adhesive um i think people underestimate this i .

Think obviously there's a water resistance factor and i would be hesitant to guarantee water resistance with one of these um it's more importantly to me adhesive is sort of like a shock absorber in a lot of ways .

You definitely want to when you replace a screen you want to go around all of these edges and you want to remove all of that right you need to make sure that every last bit of old adhesive is gone so that the screen can lay perfectly flat because if the screen is not perfectly flat on your display you kind of have points of .

Pressure right it's a lot easier to crack a device when you're only supporting it on half of the display but if you are literally laying the display perfectly flat around all the edges of the rail then it's being supported everywhere and there's no sharp points to cause a crack in the .

Display and then on top of that putting adhesive on a perfectly cleaned frame and getting it to lay perfectly flat and that the adhesive is designed to help with that too right it's going to fill in the gaps of where there might be unevenness that will help with derby as well so make sure .

We're back sorry we got a some equipment to upgrade here but we should be good to go thanks for the heads-up cody um if there was anything really important that i was cut off at just let me know and i can kind of re-explain the ending of what i was saying .

Uh kind of here the dragon what do you think is the biggest difference between the prime line compared to select when sourcing all of the best possible components is there any specific part that sees a large jump in quality um .

So i was kind of touching on this right when i got cut off so that was a good question so i can kind of explain the end of what i was saying um the next the biggest difference i think you're going to see let me get back here the biggest difference i think you're gonna see between a prime and a .

Select oled display two soft oled displays is gonna come down to color it's going to be the way color is represented in that image iphones are notorious for having some of the best color representation out there there are a lot of people who buy iphones because they are photographers .

Videographers um graphic designers you know you guys sound like the art crowd right that's that's kind of apple's thing if you have one of those people walking in and there are people who are very attuned to to color representation you might want to get them into a prime .

Display you might want to make sure that you know when they're they're matching pictures on their phone to their you know super nice computer monitor that it looks similar um that they're not missing out on on and any specific versions of red right you compare two reds you want to make sure that it's very obvious the difference between them .

That the reds are accurate so that's that's going to be the biggest jump in in a prime versus a select displays is how color is represented um on that display for anybody who really puts an importance on photography videography looking at quality images so .

It depends on who you are right uh soft oled still gets you in my opinion ninety-five percent of the way there um all right just a select does it i i am a person our select line as far as color goes is gonna be far more um what's the word specific petty i almost i feel like i'm .

Petty sometimes in that way i i love displays i mean it's kind of why i'm doing this role um i care a lot about you know the technologies and the differences and so i'm so sensitive and i put so much importance .

On that color in that brightness difference that our parameters are probably more strict than than most people would notice and that's you know part of the reason why we we make sure that you know we have our screens and they're they're .

Just a better looking screen than a lot of the competition out there um but yeah so that that's that would be my end all be all which is select will get you most of the way there but if you got somebody who is as you know particular as i am um or you know close to it uh you may want to get .

Them into a prime so yeah obs i know yeah that's that's the truth man i knew exactly what happened when the audio went out luckily it's a quick fix um so i think did we get this up yeah we have .

The display up and running um here's something i actually think is interesting that is worth pointing out which is you will notice on all of these displays there is a beautiful beautiful message from apple that says important display message unable to verify this iphone has a .

Genuine apple display every once in a while i would say less often than it used to be but it used to be a daily occurrence i would get messages from you know customers all the time that said hey um there's an issue with displays how do i .

Get this message to go away do i just need to buy oem displays from now on and the answer is is basically there isn't anything to do unless you are apple in in you know your apple certified you apple software this is a message that will pop up on any display no matter what display it .

Is if you don't have the computers and tools and programs made by apple to remove that message properly so you're going to get that no matter what even on our prime premium sourced soft oled display this display is designed to be every bit as good as an apple oem display um but unless apple were to .

Give me everything i need to get rid of that message it's going to be there the good news is that it goes away after a couple days it starts burying itself in settings i think with the newest ios update um i don't believe this phone is updated but with news ios update there's actually a specific place it lives inside of your general settings .

You can kind of see what parts have ever been replaced or removed and it'll kind of tell you it can't verify it it's a good and bad thing i kind of like it in some ways basically it's there just if you buy a used phone you can quickly see if the person who replaced it had the screen repaired or the camera repaired .

Or something like that and that's kind of a nice thing about it but that's kind of all there is to it so as a quick overview you have hard oled and .

Soft oled displays the main difference is going to be a durability difference um hard oled is hard cold hard for reason it has more glass material in its design and so it won't take impacts as well and then .

The other reason is that soft oleds using tricks like bending like you can see here can get a bit more of an edge to edge bezel look thinner bezels around the edge of the device and it allows you kind of to get out there and and not sacrifice any quality when you kind of push things to the very edge everything just kind of works .

As it should be when you get to that point the incel display is a specific kind of backlit lcd display that uses a backlight still uh of just one big ol light source to shine through the screen um but it's special because it takes the digitizer and the .

Display the lcd and instead of putting glue between two different layers it literally incorporates all of the wires and the of the digitizer in between the in the cells of the lcd and you get a very thin display that way and then our prime .

Soft oled is designed just like our soft oled for select but we start sourcing components and filters and colors and layers and all that kind of stuff to to lower the white balance to get the color accuracy you know pin perfect all of those things and that's kind of the the benefit of all that quality so that's going to be the summary and the .

Wrap up for you um as we sign off here there's gonna be a few kind of things to know um i believe repair talk live isn't going to be two weeks from now we have to give you an update um there's gonna be a bit of uh shuffling around of of the timing of repair talk live um .

And then we also have a survey in the comments below that kind of is a quick like four or five questions about what you like about repair talk live or don't like um and also questions about like do you watch other youtube tech stuff like display you know people talking about .

Phones and technology um what kind of format would you like repairtalk live to be um you have to just see what the questions are but they're really quick and really simple and it would really help me have more fun uh thanks jim i'm glad you liked it .

I think we're gonna sign off um you can always leave a comment if you have any more questions after the video is up um i can get back to you at that point too if you missed something here and i will see you guys later we will let you know on uh the website newsletters you know wherever repair talk live facebook group uh when the .

Next repair talk life will be it'll be probably three weeks from now maybe four weeks it's a little in the air um i'm a little multitasked here at mobile defenders so it just kind of depends on how things roll out so have a great day try to stay inside if it's uh very very snowy where you are if it's .

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