Another way to look at the two differences between school and practice is like who's in charge who who is the person who has final say which dictates everything down below in school it tends to be the teacher right yeah obviously there's a teacher and then there's like department head or chair and then there's a dean but but.

For the designer for the student for the architect it's the teacher if the teacher likes it or they approve it or whatever that's all that matters right in the context of when you're doing a project it's a little bit different in practice because you have a boss.

But your but your boss your architecture boss is not actually the boss the client is the boss in the sense that they're the ones who have final say yes or no i like it i don't like it or we're gonna change things or this project is scrapped for reasons outside of reasons that you know might not even have to do with you at.

All right and so it's a little bit weird actually also that reminds me that in school it's a mistake that students make and they seek approval from their teachers i don't you really shouldn't be doing that but that's that's you know it's there that's what happens.

Yeah in a way um and that can be a bad thing it can also be a good thing that you should listen to your teacher hopefully if they're a good one and when you're working at an office the same thing happens with your boss or your partner right and there's levels.

Levels levels that's why there's when there's more hierarchy in an office more frustrating it is for designers because you create something you show it to your your design director and you're looking for their approval because then you can go home right they approve it then they go up to their.

Let's say the uh the partner right they need their approval so that they can go home and the partner needs to present it to the client right and so it's like you can produce something at your desk and then there's like three layers above you where you can get dismissed and you know you might not even be part of those.

Conversations and that's another thing from a more of a first person perspective what it feels like it's different and i think the the more i think the more that employees realize that that's the case they think about that the more new practices we would have because like for us we have our own.

Office so the only person we have to you know get approval from is the client now i would say that getting approval doesn't does not sound right and i would actually argue the opposite because otherwise why is the client hiring you if you're not the expert but we only respect we only uh.

What do you call it take it up or whatever with one person you don't have to talk to one person it's a client right the client might have a few people on the team but that's it